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The Political Side to the War in Iraq
09.26.06 (8:09 am)   [edit]

I really cannot express to you just how much I am fed up with this administration, and the way they are handling the Iraq war.  First of all, it is not really a war.  We have not formally declared war against Iraq in any way.  Secondly, the way they are handling this whole ordeal is completely ridiculous and is solely for political gain.

I used to remember the times when the U.S. would go to war, and we would actually get something accomplished and be considered the clearcut winners.  Where did we go wrong?  Oh wait, I know the answer to that.  We elected George W. Bush to be our commander-in-chief and he appointed Donald Rumsfield to be the Secretary of Defense.  We once used to fight wars by hitting them with all we had.  Sort of like a shock-and-aww sort of tactic.  By the time they knew what exactly it was that attacked them, it was too we late.  The war would be over, they would be annihilated, and we the U.S. would be the victor.  You may never see this happen in Iraq under our current "leadership".

Here is the kicker though folks.  I'll let you in on a little secret that this administration and the Republican party doesn't want anyone to know.  They really don't want this war to be over.  The reason for this is fairly simple.  If the war is over, they have no other issue they can use to campaign with and gain votes.  Lets be honest here.  If it wasn't for the war in Iraq, President Bush would have lost his 2004 election to John Kerry.  I know many people who voted for Bush solely on the fact that they "wanted him to finish what he had started".  Boy were we mistaken.  This is exactly what they wanted us to believe.  They wanted us to think that they can and would finish this "war" so we would re-elect them.  They played us.  They played all of us, and until we decide to open our eyes to this form of politics, we will continue to be played over and over again.  Lets not be stupid here American, lets vote into office the people who want this to finally come to an end so we can focus on what really needs to be done to this country.

The New York Times wrote a column yesterday giving a list of all the things Congress has not accomplished this session.  An immigration plan tops the list followed by port security and the list continues.  There is a number of issues that Congress had no time to debate and formulate a bill, because they are blinded by what this administration is doing in Iraq.  If they wouldn't have to debate issues like how are we going to fund this war, or do we support our troops, or when is a good time to pull out, then Congress could actually get things done to better this country, our country.  We are the ones that are really suffering from the war in Iraq.

 


posted by: commontater (reply)
post date: 09.26.06 (4:11 pm)

Totally spot-on, Fruge. You may be surprised, though, to learn there's quite a few of us who agree with you. Yes, you're right to say the .gov has no intentions of "winning" this war. Said so themselves - when they told us this was going to be a loooooong war! And let's be real here. Everything about this "war" has been orchestrated. Right down to the talking points. I'm so sick to death of their collective mantra - WAR ON TERRORISM! WAR ON TERRORISM! You know, I've thought about this and have come to the conclusion that there's NOTHING genuine about someone who's truly shook up by the magnitude of such an attack to immediately adopt a catch phrase. And use it 20 times in a sentence. Every thing about this WOT is contrived. In language, in legislation, and in the lawlessness we've been witness to since 2001. How am I doing so far?

And just think of all the wheels and cogs firing up on this huge machine that affects every nook and corner of our .government, industry, and personal lives. The machine is alive! THE MACHINE IS A-L-I-V-E! I bet Orwell is spinning in his grave getting no final rest; he was either prescient, or was in on the original plan. Ha!

But the good news is - the sleeping giant is rubbing its eyes awake. We can make it rise and sweep across our nation starting from the west coast like a giant tsunami rolling over our fruited plains, gaining speed and strength, until it reaches its destination at the seat of our elected pinheads; rolling up and over the entire district, heaving in ululating rhythm, picking it clean as it makes its way to the sea. -oo-

How'm I doing, Fruge?



posted by: tfruge1 (reply)
post date: 09.26.06 (6:25 pm)

Reply to: commontater
You are right-on tater. I couldn't have said it better myself. It is a shame that they would politicize something like this. I can't wait for the day that it backfires in their faces.



posted by: quickwit (reply)
post date: 09.26.06 (8:32 pm)

I’m tired as hell; however you are an idiot, so I must say something. I may skip around picking apart your ridiculous post, but plz bare with me and finish reading the article. As we know you have a tough time reading people’s post that have taken the time to read all of your post.
1. Thanks for pulling the old dictionary and out of the closet and explaining to us the definition of war. As I began to read I thought,” man this guy’s post must suck if that is the leadoff.
2. Yes, I agree the war has been publicized by the republicans too much. But surely the democrats publicized the war just as much.
3. And exactly how old are you? When has America ever used the shock and awe technique? (This next few lines have a little to do with history, it’s a great thing maybe you should check into some of the froth that you spew and make sure it is historically somewhat accurate.) We tried in Vietnam and you pinkos protested. America entered WWII in 1941 and it was not until 1945 that the war ended. ( a small comparison) The Iraq War began on March 20, 2003. These things take a little time.
4. Last one, I’m getting tired. [disclaimer] (I do not like the war in Iraq nor do I like the deaths of US soldiers) The republicans have shown how vulgar they can by using the war as a political tool. Are we not to, however, expect that the democrats would do the same if the had started the war. We can not, I feel, bash the republicans for using the war, as long as the democrats use the same technique yet they are against the war. Sticky Quagmire
Thanks and goodnight.




posted by: heavyarms (reply)
post date: 09.28.06 (11:24 am)

First of all, The United States has made a "formal" declaration of war only eight times in its history. Against the UK in the War of 1812. Against Mexico during the Mexican-American War. Against Spain during the Spanish-American War. Against Germany and then Austria-Hungary during WWI. Against Japan, next Germany and Italy during WWII. Finally, against Bulgaria, Hungary and Romania during WWII. This was the last time the US formally declared war. The war in Iraq, just like the war in Afghanistan, the Persian Gulf War, the Vietnam War, the two Barbary Wars, and the Invasion of Panama (among others) are all military actions that HAVE BEEN authorized by Congress, showing that it is not necessary to formally declare war to perform a military action. In fact, the US Congress never authorized US involvement during the Korean War. Truman cited authority under a UN resolution to send military force to that conflict.

Next, to your shock and awe comment. We are about to approach the 4 year mark of our involvement in Iraq. Over 4 years passed between our formal declaration of war during WWI and the Treaty of Berlin ceasing the war. The period between our declaration of war against Japan during WWII and the Peace Treaty of San Francisco (which formally ended hostilities with Japan) was almost 10 years (Dec. 8, 1941 to Sep. 8, 1951.) Almost nine years passed between our involvement in Vietnam and the Peace agreement signed in Paris in 1973. During some conflicts we went in, did our job and got out. During most, the process took several years. Shock and Awe indeed.

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